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Idoru
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« on: September 01, 2007, 07:41:15 PM »

Hi i've just come to terms with a swiss company to relocate myself there, and although i'm quite eager to get there, i'd like to hear from you lot what's it like to move to a foreign country alone and leaving everything behind smile
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 10:07:46 PM »

A bit daunting and scary, but also pretty exciting. I lived abroad twice in Germany with my parents so when I came to move to Austria (admittedly for just a few months as opposed to permanently) I was used to the moving and upheaval but still quite scary to be in a completely different country, miles away from home and not actually knowing anyone whatsoever. Luckily I lived in a flat with 4 other newbie instructors and most of us got on well. The party then started wink

It's worth the experience even if only for a few years. Plus you're in such a prime position for being able to 'pop' to Austria, Germany, France, Spain or Italy for the weekend, or even for the day depending on where you'll be living.

Hope it goes well for you smile
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 10:44:43 PM »

Paul Bilton lives in Switzerland. Not sure if he's signed up with the new ddn though.

He has a link to a relevant book from his website though.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2007, 09:34:06 AM »

theres a book?
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2007, 09:40:00 AM »

I lived in Wales, does that count?
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 09:51:17 AM »

theres a book?


Living and Working In Switzerland.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 11:02:32 AM »

dude, that was written in 87!
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 11:31:36 AM »

dude, that was written in 87!
Cuckoo clocks, toblerones, punctual transport, cheap cars, nice banking, nazi gold. What more do you need to know?

I've got a friend who moved there several years ago. He seems to like it and wouldn't move back despite having a nipper.

If you can speak a modicum of German (or French or Italian but especially German) you should be fine. Switzerland is one of the nicer countries to move to. Very placid and understanding from what I could tell from my visits. If you get bored you're not too far away from a handful of different countries. Oh the ski-ing is meant to be good if that floats your boat. Floating boats however may be a bit trickier.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 12:27:35 PM »

Keep an eye on any offspring though. They're currently debating an idea of requiring whole families to be deported for the crimes of their chav kids.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 08:21:38 AM »

Hi i've just come to terms with a swiss company to relocate myself there, and although i'm quite eager to get there, i'd like to hear from you lot what's it like to move to a foreign country alone and leaving everything behind smile

At University, I did an IT degree with Erasmus year in France and really liked the culture, the people (well most of them wink ) and also met a young lady.....   Things worked out with young lady, but I was unable to find IT work in France after my degree and she was still a student so not really feasible for me to stay out there. So I came back to the UK and worked in London. On one of my many trips / holidays to France to see my gf during this period, I saw an IT job offer for someone fluent in English with good French skills in the same city as said gf (Orléans)  I applied and got offered the job and immediately resigned from my job in London.

So I moved to France, age 23 with just all my belongings in my Ford Fiesta. I got a cheap return ticket on the ferry by collecting coupons in The Sun for 2 weeks.  I think the ferry company alerted the authorities of a missing person, cos I never used the return tickler

I am now 34, still in France. No longer in Orléans, and no longer with the original gf wink I am now in sunny Montpellier on the med, working for a French IT company as a programmer/project manager and life is pretty good.

It does feel pretty weird though. - I worked out I have spent a third of my life out here now.

Bit of advice:

1) Make the move for positive reasons, ie if you really DO want to live in Switzerland, and DO want that new job. Don't just take any old job that you wouldn't really take if you were in the UK. Don't move "just to get away from the UK" The grass isn't always greener on the other side......  Weigh it all up and then make the decision.

2) Learn the language. Might be a bit harder in Switzerland though. I've met other expats during my time in France who have been here for > 7 years and still don't speak the language. It's no coincidence that they're the ones who moan the most and are the most miserable, and don't mix with the locals. It's a viscious (sp?) circle and they just end up alienating themselves and returning to the UK complaining about how rude the French are....

3) Don't do the expat thing. Don't join up with expat clubs/societies etc as soon as you get off the plane. I know it's tempting to surround yourself with people in same boat yourself who can explain stuff to you in English. But seriously don't do it. Once you do, there's no going back! All your friends will now be other Brits. You will get invited to parties with other Brits where you will meet other Brits.  This will result in problem number 2 (see above) and also you getting labelled as someone not wanting to integrate by the locals.


As for Switzerland as a destination, well I think it is a very "Utopian" place to live. Pretty stereotypical German way of life, from what I've heard. If you like everything in its place, clean and quiet and you believe everyone else should do the same, then I'm sure you'll like it. Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, but I think you get the idea. All IMHO of course


hth and good luck wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 02:51:59 PM »

Thx mr tickle,
Just worth mentioning i'm Portuguese, so the difference is even greater. The weather, the rules and the whole tidy country thing going on.
I'm planning on learning german as soon as i touch down, and i'm good with languages so i hope i'm ok in that department.

As for the job itself, i didn't want to move anywhere. It's just that after a month of 'harassment' i gave in.
They put up a whole charm operation in order to get me so i 'didn't really have a choice'.

I know that there a lot of Portuguese people there, but i'm planning on almost avoiding them, i mean i'll fit in my way in there and it's all europe nowadays so Tongue

As for the reasons well, it's a bit of a fresh start since things here have been kinda stalled for this year so it's a good opportunity to stir things up a bit.

Again thanks for all the info smile
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