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Author Topic: Put down the camera, I'm arresting you under the anti-terror act.  (Read 3395 times)
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« on: April 25, 2009, 10:39:14 PM »

This is not good.

I'm too angery to comment hitler
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 07:05:36 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 07:28:05 AM »

I can see you all now shuffling out from the local newsagents with your under-the-counter copy of Amateur Photographer in a brown paper bag and a furtive look on your face.  laugh

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 07:45:04 AM »

I have to go and take photographs of buildings for college - better take my hard hat!
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 02:41:59 PM »

How long before it's illegal to attend a protest with cameras now eh? Or photograph the police?

This was reported last week:

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Every phone call, email or website visit will be monitored by the state under plans to be unveiled next week.


That's this week.

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The precise content of calls and other communications would not be accessible but even text messages and visits to social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter would be tracked.


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A consultation document on the plans, known in Whitehall as the Interception Modernisation Programme, is likely to put great emphasis on the threat facing Britain and warn the alternative to the powers would be a massive expansion of surveillance.


Telegraph

It will be interesting to see if the State's resolve to implement a national ID database - estimated cost: £5bn - will still go-ahead given our economic climes.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 03:00:47 PM »

Cory Doctorow's novel Little Brother touches on a lot of these themes. Very good book too

I wonder if our overlords are even competent to use all this monitoring tech. I doubt it
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 04:14:48 PM »

I can see you all now shuffling out from the local newsagents with your under-the-counter copy of Amateur Photographer in a brown paper bag and a furtive look on your face. 

Isn`t that what happens anyway? "Amateur Pornographer" Mrs Y calls it on the odd occasion I buy a copy.  biggrin
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 04:52:27 PM »

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How long before it's illegal to attend a protest with cameras now eh? Or photograph the police?


ohh if only this was already in place, then we'd have never known about the poor guy that was killed after an encounter with the police. Or all the other footage of what went on at the G20 protest.

oh by the way, the second part about photographing the police is already in the anti-citizen (terrorist) laws.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 05:11:18 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »

Right, I have your name noted  hitler

By the way, that woman on the left look sooo pissed off.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 07:01:08 PM »

How long before it's illegal to attend a protest with cameras now eh? Or photograph the police?


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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 12:44:40 AM »

How long before it's illegal to attend a protest with cameras now eh? Or photograph the police?


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Quite - the podcast halfway down page is interesting/worrying too.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 01:18:23 PM »

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those in possession of 'photographs, maps, global positioning systems, photographic equipment

What, so.....my phone?

I have a phone!  I must be an 3v1l t3rr0r1st!!!!!!!!!111!!!!one!1!!eleven!!11!!!1!!
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 01:29:52 PM »

3v1l t3rr0r1st!!!!!!!!!111!!!!one!1!!eleven!!11!!!1!!

You haven't changed that much then? wink
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 11:11:28 AM »

Careful with that camera! A heinous crime methinks.


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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 10:55:37 AM »

This is good: http://www.marcvallee.co.uk/blog/2009/08/new-government-advice-on-photography-counter-terrorism/ download the PDF, it contains a copy of the circular sent to chief constables.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 09:10:06 PM »

In the good old 80's coppers would just take your camera off you and hit you in the face with it. They did with one of my mates who lost quite a lot of teeth as a result.

Another approach they would take, which a different friend witnessed at the 'battle of the beanfield' where police beat up a lot of innocent people, was to use plain clothes police posing as reporters who would go around asking photographers for their film to use in their newspaper. Once the camera was handed over the grinning 'reporter' would gleefully open the back and expose the film.

They're obviously very twitchy these days as nearly everyone has got some kind of camera with them, so they can't get up to anything naughty.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2009, 02:48:36 PM »

plain clothes police posing as reporters who would go around asking photographers for their film to use in their newspaper. Once the camera was handed over the grinning 'reporter' would gleefully open the back and expose the film.

I'm not sure why someone would hand over their camera like this but, if true, serves them bloody right!
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2009, 06:11:32 PM »

plain clothes police posing as reporters who would go around asking photographers for their film to use in their newspaper. Once the camera was handed over the grinning 'reporter' would gleefully open the back and expose the film.

I'm not sure why someone would hand over their camera like this but, if true, serves them bloody right!

The coppers were very convincing, apparently. In the case of my friend the guy told him he was a journalist working for the Guardian, and my friend would get a credit, small payment, and possible future freelance work if the pictures were good.

These were more naive pre-internet times. It was the high unemployment early 80's, my friend was skint and on the dole and so he hoped it was a genuine offer. It wasn't, but at least he got to keep his teeth.


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