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« on: March 10, 2009, 08:47:11 PM »

Just hit the buy button on a 64bit machine - anything I shold be aware of  unsure
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 09:58:23 PM »

Ask Ory, he's been crying about it on twitter this week wink big grin Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 09:08:20 AM »

64x vista?

Depends if youve gone for a 64x OS really, if you have go the 64x vista root, not the 64 xp root.

I use it at home, and the only issue I have is that flash wont work in 64x IE7, but in the 32x standard version it comes with it works fine. Just annoying having to flick between the two.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 11:01:42 AM »

YEah it's vista 64 - i7 processor etc. searching around the internet, I can't find much that points to it being a bad idea although I know there were a few problems when XP 64 came out - hardware support and all that, but it looks like my external hardware should be ok with it.

Prepare for a few vista related messages - I have it on the laptop, but very rarely use that.

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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 11:12:44 AM »

YEah it's vista 64 - i7 processor etc. searching around the internet, I can't find much that points to it being a bad idea although I know there were a few problems when XP 64 came out - hardware support and all that, but it looks like my external hardware should be ok with it.

Prepare for a few vista related messages - I have it on the laptop, but very rarely use that.

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smile As I say, Ive had no issues other then an initial problem with sound drivers which a bit of googling has sorted.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 09:34:38 PM »

Just set up the new i7 (nehelem?) with Vista 64 - so far sweet as a nut and startlingly quick. Beautiful new Dell 24" too - she deserves it!

Tony I recall you asking about CS4 a few weeks back and we've been playing with it on the above system for the last couple of days. Very nice and no issues so far. The only buggeration was no flash in IE 64 bit as noted by Matt and spending 10 minutes wondering what was going on  unsure - Vista ships with the 32 bit version of IE so no issue other than flicking between apps.

I managed to find basic drivers for our scanner and printer (which are still good pieces of kit) altho HP are not releasing full utilities for Vista (twats).

Anyway overall, sweet so far..........

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 07:27:52 AM »

first post from the new PC, everything seems ok, just forever installing stuff - all the CS4 updates are having a go at the minute along with java.

Seems nice enough - how do I stop those nag screens that ask me if I'm sure I want to do something that I want to do?
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 07:57:43 AM »

IAC - you can turn it off in control panel then user accounts. Will need a restart
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 05:12:33 PM »

Ask Ory, he's been crying about it on twitter this week wink big grin Tongue

Troof. Don't get XP64, get Vista64. I had to spend an extra £129 to learn this.

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 08:18:03 PM »

I have Vista 64, still tring to get all my stuff in the right places though - the PC seems to be working great
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 12:01:41 PM »

Ask Ory, he's been crying about it on twitter this week wink big grin Tongue

Troof. Don't get XP64, get Vista64. I had to spend an extra £129 to learn this.

ory.

Eh?  XP64 works beautifully (did I just say that?) on my desktop.  Even my more exotic hardware that prevents me running Ubuntu on it - such as the SCSI controller, the screen splitter, etc - works perfectly.  I have heard a lot of people complain about it in the past but to be honest, for me, it's given me fewer problems than x32 ever did.  Very stable.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 03:28:32 PM »

Cant quite see the point in 'upgrading' to 64x XP tbh, if you have the hardware to support it, vista should run fine on your system, and your upgrading to a 2 year old OS, not a 8/9 year old one!

Fact: 99.9% of issues with vista are on upgrades to machines with specs that cant handle it as XPs baseline spec hasnt changed in that 9 years and people think they dont need to move hardware forward to support 'windows'.

Ask Ory, he's been crying about it on twitter this week wink big grin Tongue

Troof. Don't get XP64, get Vista64. I had to spend an extra £129 to learn this.

ory.

Eh?  XP64 works beautifully (did I just say that?) on my desktop.  Even my more exotic hardware that prevents me running Ubuntu on it - such as the SCSI controller, the screen splitter, etc - works perfectly.  I have heard a lot of people complain about it in the past but to be honest, for me, it's given me fewer problems than x32 ever did.  Very stable.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 06:55:55 PM »

I know, I know, I'm biting.  But I just can't resist. big grin

Cant quite see the point in 'upgrading' to 64x XP tbh,

True, I can see your point if you're coming from XP32, but to be fair, mine wasn't an upgrade - built that machine 2 years ago.  Even so, I still would have gone with XP64 over Vista if I'm honest.  Every single person we got a Vista Business machine for at work said "yes" to an XP upgrade.  Run Vista on my machine and it's not a crap spec, it'd run just fine.  Wouldn't stop me hating it, but it'd run.  XP64, on the other hand, runs like faeces off a digging implement.

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Fact: 99.9% of issues with vista are on upgrades to machines with specs that cant handle it as XPs baseline spec hasnt changed in that 9 years and people think they dont need to move hardware forward to support 'windows'.

Which is why they just spent a lot of money fixing Vista, ripping out the annoying bits, making it faster and repackaging it as "Windows 7," better known to the rest of us as Vista SE.  old skool wink 
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2009, 08:05:17 AM »

Ive missed you in a way tanty wink

Windows 7 might just be an improvement on Vista, but then again, havent all new windows versions basically been that?

Ive been running vista daily for ages, since it came out, and have had less issues then xp, infact we have 26 networked vista machines for kids now here.

I know, I know, I'm biting.  But I just can't resist. big grin

Cant quite see the point in 'upgrading' to 64x XP tbh,

True, I can see your point if you're coming from XP32, but to be fair, mine wasn't an upgrade - built that machine 2 years ago.  Even so, I still would have gone with XP64 over Vista if I'm honest.  Every single person we got a Vista Business machine for at work said "yes" to an XP upgrade.  Run Vista on my machine and it's not a crap spec, it'd run just fine.  Wouldn't stop me hating it, but it'd run.  XP64, on the other hand, runs like faeces off a digging implement.

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Fact: 99.9% of issues with vista are on upgrades to machines with specs that cant handle it as XPs baseline spec hasnt changed in that 9 years and people think they dont need to move hardware forward to support 'windows'.

Which is why they just spent a lot of money fixing Vista, ripping out the annoying bits, making it faster and repackaging it as "Windows 7," better known to the rest of us as Vista SE.  old skool wink 
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2009, 09:00:47 AM »

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Windows 7 might just be an improvement on Vista, but then again, havent all new windows versions basically been that?

Errr....  Do you really want that answered? old skool wink
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2009, 09:07:20 AM »

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Windows 7 might just be an improvement on Vista, but then again, havent all new windows versions basically been that?

Errr....  Do you really want that answered? old skool wink

Well I would say they have all been an improvemnt, how much is of course a different debate!
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 11:13:36 AM »

Had to use 64bit as I have 8gig of RAM, which isn't supported on a 32bit OS. Went for XP64 as had no problems with XP32. However, I found that iTunes doesn't support XP64 (or vice versa), so I had to buy Vista64 instead. Now my RW/DVD doesn't work properly, but that's a different matter and something I'm willing to live with.

Very happy with Vista64 otherwise and, as you'd expect, it runs like lightning on this machine.

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 09:56:33 AM »

Hang on a minute.....so you're not using Win98 any more?  Are you at least still running at 800x600? wink
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 04:20:59 PM »

Still running Windows 'Classic' style. Can't stand Vista's pointless shiny interface, or XP's Fisher-Price one.

Bought a big CIBOX 19 inch flatscreen. Running native 1440x900 with 1gb NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT. banana

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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2009, 08:08:04 PM »

Can't believe in your line of work your still not using dual screens or anything larger then 19". Our admin staff have 22" now!
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2009, 11:34:55 PM »

Still running Windows 'Classic' style. Can't stand Vista's pointless shiny interface, or XP's Fisher-Price one.

With you on that. I always rip out the FP interface, and Vista just drives me up the wall anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2009, 11:36:28 PM »

Can't believe in your line of work your still not using dual screens or anything larger then 19". Our admin staff have 22" now!

I've got two lovely 22" widescreens at work.  When I came back the boss offered to get me a laptop.  I told him I hate using them for coding, so why not gimme back my old desktop and some shiny new monitors.  So he gave me both.  big grin
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2009, 11:30:15 AM »

Can't believe in your line of work your still not using dual screens or anything larger then 19". Our admin staff have 22" now!

My 'line of work' is changing all the time. Soon I won't need a computer. old skool wink

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