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Notorious MCSE
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« on: July 04, 2007, 09:22:48 AM »

Help me out - I'd like to increase CCT's daily google adsense earnings from an average of $7USD to $20USD per day.

Give me some hints, and ill keep the thread updated with how your ideas worked, or didnt.

It might make for an interesting thread.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 12:25:58 PM »

Wordpress?  Make it so that only a few posts show, then have an adsense block, then have some more posts styled to look a bit like adsense.  Easy.

PM me for more details.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 01:16:01 PM »

Thanks,

Anymore suggestions?
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 10:46:26 AM »

got to be careful if you try to blend them in with the site as google updated their terms to stop this.

try putting some blocks after each or everyother topic on the home page and after the story
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 11:46:36 AM »

How many adsense blocks are you allowed on one page?

I also changed a 768 ad link unit into a 468 ad link unit via the code directly. Adsense shows the 468 link unit on its ad example page, but you cannot select it via the make the code bit.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 11:47:37 AM »

Yesterday Adsense give me a paltry $9USD, lets see if that cant be beaten!
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 12:12:15 PM »

Only term that specifically forbids blending, is having other ADVERTS blended to look like Adsense.

got to be careful if you try to blend them in with the site as google updated their terms to stop this.

Please provide URL, would like to read this.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 08:29:20 PM »

OK, I'll bite..

Who is Mr Charisma ? tickler
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2007, 01:51:40 PM »

Stuck on 49 cents today with ten page views, what time does the google adsense server run off?
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2007, 09:22:16 PM »

got to be careful if you try to blend them in with the site as google updated their terms to stop this.

Please provide URL, would like to read this.

I'm assuming slee is talking about the new addition to the programme policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=48182&sourceid=aso&subid=ww-ww-et-asui&medium=link&hl=en_GB) where it states

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Publishers using online advertising to drive traffic to pages showing Google ads must comply with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, if you advertise for sites participating in the AdSense programme, the advertising should not be deceptive to users.

The 'deceptive' comment would presumably cover blending that little bit too much to make your ads appear part of the website eg. like the MFA sites that have a page of links then a large 4 link ad block at the top, all using the same link colour and text colour to almost make it hard to see where the ad block finishes and the page links start.

But that is simply the assumption being made around the AIS blogs. As always, the best way to check is to email Google and ask them if your site is okay.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 02:53:00 PM »

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Publishers using online advertising to drive traffic to pages showing Google ads must comply with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, if you advertise for sites participating in the AdSense programme, the advertising should not be deceptive to users.

The 'deceptive' comment would presumably cover blending that little bit too much to make your ads appear part of the website eg. like the MFA sites that have a page of links then a large 4 link ad block at the top, all using the same link colour and text colour to almost make it hard to see where the ad block finishes and the page links start.

But that is simply the assumption being made around the AIS blogs. As always, the best way to check is to email Google and ask them if your site is okay.

thanks sarah yes that is what i was referring to. i didnt mean you cant make it a  part of your site, just to be careful if you have images too close to the add block for example thats not allowed but of course it all depends on each site. i would want anyone to be banned.
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2007, 02:01:55 AM »

So far, so good. around $12USD per day, but ads are only on pages like this:
http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/07/09/chery-to-up-output/

So, more ads?
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2007, 07:28:47 AM »

Personally on the front page I'd set up a loop to display a single contextual advert after the first 3 posts (3 per page then).

Also, on your internal pages you've got adverts under a heading 'related links'. Do you ever have related links or is just a heading for the advert block? I'd be careful there because Google only allow certain headings above their adverts. This is out of their policies

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May not place misleading labels above Google ad units - for instance, ads may be labelled "Sponsored Links" but not "Favourite Sites"

I think Related Links could be deemed misleading, you may need to check with Google on that one. Better to check and be told they're fine, than to not check and lose your account when you're on the last day of the month and got 2 months worth of earnings in there.
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2007, 07:41:30 AM »

So, more ads?

You need to add in some "related entries".  Why not link to the 4 previous articles (to the selected article) within the category, after (or before) which you would have the adsense block.

And/Or, remove the heading "related entries".

As per SarahG, it would then comply with Adsense TOS.
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2007, 08:57:06 AM »

OK, I'll bite..

Who is Mr Charisma ? tickler

my guess is burt
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2007, 12:34:27 PM »

"burt" gets my vote too....
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2007, 12:55:28 PM »

Personally on the front page I'd set up a loop to display a single contextual advert after the first 3 posts (3 per page then).

Also, on your internal pages you've got adverts under a heading 'related links'. Do you ever have related links or is just a heading for the advert block? I'd be careful there because Google only allow certain headings above their adverts. This is out of their policies

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May not place misleading labels above Google ad units - for instance, ads may be labelled "Sponsored Links" but not "Favourite Sites"

I think Related Links could be deemed misleading, you may need to check with Google on that one. Better to check and be told they're fine, than to not check and lose your account when you're on the last day of the month and got 2 months worth of earnings in there.

I did have a related links plugin going, but altered the theme and it stopped working. Its on my list of stuff to get working again.

I have many things to add to my site over the coming weeks. I want to make the related links too look exactly like the google ads. Is that right or wrong?
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2007, 02:17:35 PM »

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Charisma Bypass is the best name I could think of for this new forum.

Anyway;

Making your site's internal links look like adsense (or vice versa) is not against the TOS. 

There is some verbage which say other AD Network Adverts cannot be styled like Adsense (and vice versa).
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2007, 10:23:40 AM »

Making your site's internal links look like adsense (or vice versa) is not against the TOS. 

According to the Adsense team, it is.

Just had this through:

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Hello,

While reviewing your account, we noticed that you are currently displaying Google ads in a way that does not comply with our policies. For instance, we found violations of AdSense policies on pages such as ####.

Publishers may not implement Google ads in a manner that disguises the ads in any way, for instance, by formatting neighboring content to look similar to the ads, or by making ads look like games or forum threads. Additionally, publishers may not attempt to associate specific images with the individual ads appearing on their sites. Such an implementation may confuse users who assume that the image is directly related to the advertiser's offerings.

Please make any necessary changes to your web pages in the next 3 business days. We also suggest that you take the time to review our programme policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies) to ensure that all your other pages comply with these policies.

Once you update your site, we will automatically detect the changes and ad serving will not be affected. If you choose not to make the changes to your account within the next three days, your account will remain active but you will no longer be able to display ads on the site. Please note, however, that we may disable your account if further violations are found in the future.

Thank you for your cooperation.
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2007, 10:58:34 AM »

Show where the TOS states that making links look like Adsense is a no-no.  It doesn't, or at least, it didn't the last time I looked.

This is why smart cookies are moving away from adsense, and away from google as a way to get traffic - google make up the rules as they go along.

The only part of the page they link to, states;

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Competitive Ads and Services

In order to prevent user confusion, we do not permit Google ads or search boxes to be published on websites that also contain other ads or services formatted to use the same layout and colors as the Google ads or search boxes on that site. Although you may sell ads directly on your site, it is your responsibility to ensure these ads cannot be confused with Google ads.

If the links are links that are not adverts, then this paragraph should not apply.  If they are other adverts (eg shoemoney, kontera, chitika, Y! or whatever) then of course, it's different.  Is an internal link considered a "service" or an "ad"?  I would argue not.  but arguing with Google is pointless and fruitless.

Google is full of BS wink
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2007, 11:50:14 AM »

The site has other monetisation methods on it. But with a drop in PR, TLA earnings are virtually none, and product sales just aren't taking off on the site. Unfortunately, AdSense is the only thing that makes cash on this site.

Still, a couple of borders later, we'll see how much of an impact it makes on the earnings.
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2007, 03:37:52 PM »

I've actually been testing a layout which has google ads inside a border, and with a background - in other words, totally unblended.  It's doing pretty well - mid 20s CTR.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2007, 04:15:59 PM »

I've heard of people do well with adverts that completely stand out. And to be fair, the new curved corners border is quite nice from Google. AdSense now seem happy with our changes so we'll so what happens smile
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2007, 04:08:00 PM »

Google say my address is unverified and wont send me a cheque until its verified.

Trouble is, they've sent multiple letters with the verification PIN that ive never received. They've also sent a cheque to this address so I dont see what the problem is...

Highly ghey.
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