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Mantis
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« on: November 28, 2007, 12:00:11 PM »

I am keen on buying a Water proof/resistant camera, decent quality I intend to try my hand at action photography whilst afloat next season. smile
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 12:25:40 PM »

There are various water proof housings available for many digital cameras, or special underwater/waterproof cameras themselves. What do you currently have? Have you considered a case rather than a new camera? E.g. for my Sony DSC-T7 - I've been looking at using it on our holiday to the Maldives in April - as an underwater camera - and I found this case: Amazon - much cheaper than a new camera! (and cheaper than getting it wrong with a decent Canon DSLR too for that matter!)

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 12:27:09 PM »

sanyo xacti do one.

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 12:28:48 PM »

All depends on your budget and what you need from the camera.

On the one hand you could go for a compact like the Pentax Optio W10, W20, W30, W40 which are all waterproof, along with the likes of the Olympus 720 SW, 770 SW. Alternatively you can buy a non waterproof compact that has an optional waterproof housing or you can really push the boat out and buy a DSLR with a underwater housing.

The cheapest option is to buy a waterproof camera but you need to bare in mind that you are paying a premium for the waterproofing therefore a £180 may only be as good as a £130 non waterproof camera.

Buying a waterproof housing for a non waterproof camera is possibly the best option but there aren't housings for all compacts so your choice will be limited. That said waterproof housings tend only to be made for the better compact camera anyway.

Buying an underwater housing for a DSLR will certainly give you the best results BUT it's a) expensive b) you can only use the housing with certain lenses c) you can't use the zoom on the lens so your fixed at one focal length.

One thing to be aware of, there are some camera that are specifically designed for divers and obviously such cameras are waterproof but you need to check their specifications because some of them may have built in filters to help the camera 'see underwater' as sea water really messes with colour and requires very high ISO's or incredibly powerful flash. As, I assume, you basically need a camera to take photos above water but just don't want it to get wet, you don't want these things as they will just make your shots look weird.

Some useful links:

http://www.underwater-housing.co.uk/component/vmcchk,1/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,6/
http://www.fantasea.com/product_cat.asp?cat=1&gclid=CM329Z3D_48CFQdOMAodBgyXow
http://www.devoncamera.co.uk/index.cfm/photographic/Categories.Home/category_id/41/subject/waterproof_cameras_kits
http://www.acecameras.co.uk/asp/web/ph/cat/prodtype/1372/prodtype.asp

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »

I bought a hero one from actioncameras.co.uk I thought it was a bit pants you can try it if you like
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 02:08:31 PM »

The plan would be to mount it on a tripod fixed to the boat (See sig) so it would need to be splash resistant and if I capsize (quite likely if it is blowing a "whooley") it could get a complete immersion.

I was inspired by a talk and slides given by Rick Tomlinson His pictures are just amazing. I was thinking up to £500 as a budget Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 03:51:56 PM »

I was thinking up to £500 as a budget Shocked
Sailing photography is a very demanding type of photography, demanding not only on the photographer but on their gear. There was an interesting article a year or so ago with one of the top sailing photographers and the amount of gear that they carried with them was bloody scary, not just the amount of it but the cost! I'm talking serious money.

It goes without saying that these people don't use compact cameras and sadly £500 ain't going to be anywhere near enough to even dabble in the SLR range of cameras as the housing for a 400D comes in at over £600 on it's own (looking at about £1500 for housing, camera and lens)  ohmy

Is not using a DSLR a big issue? Well yes and no. The quality of compacts these days are incredibly good and it's a shame that a lot of people incorrectly poo poo compact cameras thinking that an DSLR will suddenly make them a pro and/or allow them to take better photos. That said for the kind of photos you will want to take you would really, really benefit from an interchangable lens camera because there will be times when you will need a wide angle, fish-eye, telephoto and standard lenses not to mention the superior metering and performance of an SLR. However with SLR's you basically have two options 1) chuck the camera in an underwater housing but these will only fit a certain lens and you usually can't zoom and the housings on their own are more than your budget. 2) buy a weather sealed SLR body and lens something like the Canon 1DsMKII and Canon L lenses but just the lens one lens on it's own is more than your budget and these are only splash proof, if you boat rolls over or sinks.....goodbye camera!

So you basically have two options, buy a waterproof camera which, having had a brief look at a few models, arent exactly feature packed and although capable of taking acceptable images won't really worry the likes of Rick Tomlinson or buy a better compact and get an underwater housing for it. Now this is where it get's difficult. As I said before you may well find that you need a wide focal range from wide angle like 17mm through to telephoto at 300mm. Now there are compact cameras that do offer such a focal range however these cameras also have lenses that extend quite a long way. Because of this you typically can't find underwater housings for them because unless the lens of the camera always presses up against the glass 'port-hole' of the housing you'll get reflections and the photos will look crap. What this means is that you are probably going to be restricted to cameras with a much more limited focal range, probably something around 30mm to 120mm which is neither very wide or very long.

I'm not recommending any of these as I don't know too much about them other than what their spec is but take a look at:

Canon Digital IXUS 950 IS with Canon WP-DC15 Waterproof Case
Total: £370

Canon Digital IXUS 960 IS with Canon WP-DC19 Waterproof Case
Total: £430

If nothing else this will show what you can get for your budget.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 09:56:12 PM »

My wife has just read this thread and said what £500  banana

Thanks for that SL I think you have just given me a good reality check on what was to be a bit of fun.

I think I will visit some camera shops and have a look at what you have said and some of those sites you mentioned.

Then I will have to sneak out and buy one out of my secret slush fund  ph34r
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 10:11:04 PM »

My wife has just read this thread and said what £500  banana

good job she never saw your "my wife does bottom thread"
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 10:23:01 PM »

Thanks for that  Tongue
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